There have been numerous talks about Charlie Sheen and his recent behaviour. I had one such talk with my parents yesterday. They said something along the lines of him wasting his talent because of his reckless behaviour. Which got me thinking about exactly that. Talent?
Because what exactly is talent? I guess the most common answer you'll find is that it's a natural ability to do something quite well. Let's take playing the keyboard as an example. Someone with talent would no doubt be good without much practice, while someone with no talent would take an extremely long time to learn even the simplest songs. Sounds logical so far, right?
The problem I have with this prinicipal is that talent is often attributed to people who are good at something. I don't agree with it. Sure there may be some people who are indeed talented at something and became famous with them, but if everyone who is famous was talented in their specific area where does that leave the average Joe? Is it not possible that someone became very good in a certain field because of hard work? Attributing it all to talent is not giving the artist enough credit.
Most people who become famous in a field, and I'll use the music industry as an example, have only gotten that far because they worked really hard to get there. If you want to become a really good keyboard player, talent alone is not going to cut it. You need dedication and hard work, and lots of it. Do you think that the great keyboardists(is that a word?) out there have gotten to where they are only because of their talent. I highly doubt it.
Attributing everything to talent also creates a vacuum between the people we see on tv and the people we are. Think about it. If I have to answer whether I think I'm talented at something I would have to answer negative. I don't excel in any area so I don't have a talent for something, or at least have yet to discover it. The same goes for nearly all of my friends. There are only 1 or 2 who I would call talented in a certain field. The rest is not. Does that mean we can't become good at something? Hopefully not. If that would be the case I might as well give up my dreams now. How could I compete against the talented people with my limited skillset.
I'm not trying to say that talent doesn't exist, actually I'm pretty sure it does. I believe that talent provides us with a considerable advantage and disadvantage. Let's look at the advantage first. There is no doubt that having talent gives you a considerable advantage over people with no talent. If someone with no talent were to start playing guitar for example, he would find it extremely difficult. It would take him a long time before he would finally be able to play his first chord or song. On the other hand if someone with talent would start playing guitar I imagine he would pick up the first chords rather quickly. It wouldn't be all to long before he would be able to play his first song.
The advantage given to people with talent is bigger than it may seem. When trying to learn something, the most important feedback we get are the results from what we play. If I were to pick up a guitar now and play something it would no doubt sound like crap. This informs me that I am not very good at playing the guitar. A talented person would get much better feedback. He could play a chord which will sound nice. He gets feedback which informs him he is doing good. This will make it much easier for him to continue playing as he already has a sense of satisfaction while I have to make do with my negative feedback. It will take me some time to get the chord right, all the while getting bad feedback for every misstrum I make. The only thing that will keep me going on is dedication. I'm much more likely to quit playing guitar than the talented person is. This is exactly what happens in real life. Untalented people become discouraged by the negative feedback they recieve and they simply stop playing alltogether. They need way more dedication than the talented player to keep going.
The disadvantage is that because someone is talented in something they may not find it challenging enough and stop playing, arguably wasting their talent.
In the end talent is nice to have but it only affects your starting position. Sure a talented person would have it easier in the beginning but he would need dedication to keep going as well. Because that´s all there is to it. If you want to become good at something your most important tool will be dedication. The dedication to keep going even when things aren´t looking up, and believe me these times will come. And those people on tv. Well they´re probably where they are right now because of that exact same thing, dedication to become good at what they like. So next time you look at someone and think: Wow that guy sure is talented; try to look a bit further. You have every chance to become as good as they are. And don't be discouraged if, like 99% of the population, you haven't got a talent. Because in the end talent is only a bonus. It's not necessary to get far. That would be dedication. And we can all get that.
Of course I'm one of those talented friends!
BeantwoordenVerwijderenand did you mean to spell "behavious"? (it does exsist)
and "Wow that guy sure are talented;" doesn't seem to be right...
(just trying to help)
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on topic: I'll just trow some questions...
1. do you believe there are different kinds of talent? like: someone has a talent for playing keyboard, but an other person has a talent for learning to play the keyboard... this may sound a bit weird but, example: 2 guys start playing... the one sucks... and the other can play the basics pretty fast... but after the same amount of practice the one is only gotter ebtter a little... but the one that first sucked passed the other his skills... (keep in mind: the same amount of practise)
2. do you count physical things as talent? like a tall guy would be good in baseball without (much) practise?
3. do you also think there is an opposite to talent? like a person naturally sucks more in things then others...
Thanks to the awesome powers of ninja-editing I possess, no one will ever know about those spelling errors. Except for those who read the comments of course.
BeantwoordenVerwijderenThanks for reading the entire article(I think it's pretty big) and taking the time to comment. About the questions, I can answer them all in one go.
I believe talent can be attributed mostly to mental structures. For someone learning how to play the keyboard you are basically learning the mental structures necessary to play properly. There are different structures which you need to learn though(different tempo's, hand placement) so two people could have different talents. I don't consider physical things talent, I consider them an advantage.
Finally, yes I do believe some people may have more trouble with learning certain mental structures than most other people. However I also believe that even these people can become very good at these mental structures if they are dedicated anough.
That was a good article Boomshanks. Like you said anyone can play something but it takes hardwork to become good at it. It can take some people years to become good at something while others months. It depends on how quickly they can learn.Talent is just another word for skill. Unfortunly we do see some peole boasting how they are talented and that noone can get up to their level when all it takes it hard work to at least try.
BeantwoordenVerwijderenIn case you didn't It's me, The Lone Steven of TSA.
hmmm...
BeantwoordenVerwijderenthanks for the answers...
but I got a follow-up question on the physical thing...
as you probebly know some ppl have a physical "malfunction" in the brain... which can actually result in a often called "Talent". (malfunction isn't the right word but I couldn't think of the right one).
Example: there are ppl who have a different way of seeing/handeling with numbers. An example is a guy who can easily remember the number PI... but by visializing the numbers as a scenery (if i can believe the documentairy) is that called a talent? (i know some ppl call it a talent but what about you?)
then there is also that some ppl have photographic memory (let sheldon cooper correct me :P) and remember every detail, WHICH of course can help a lot in the learning proces and more...
and... where do you think talents comes from?
has it always be there (thus comming from nowhere)? or is it genetically? or does it have soemthing to do with growing up?
i can inmagine that soemone growing up with listinging to someone playing a piano everyday will seem to have more talent when trying for the first time then someone who have never seen one. or do you count that in as (maybe subconsiously) learning?
and i'm not bothered with your mistakes... i made more in one sentence then you in your whole article... but since yours is an article i thought i could point it out... so you might edit it or soemthing...
oh and btw::
*enough
Quite a difficult question you're asking here as I hadn't really thought of it that way. I think talent is seen as a gift, something you can do, or pick up, quite well without much practice. In that case people who have a photographic memory are indeed talented in remembering things.
BeantwoordenVerwijderenAlso the excersize in which you remember certain things by visualising them as scenery is one I have tried in the past and it really works. I don't really see that as talent because it's a simple mind trick that takes bit of practice to get right.
And where talent comes from. I'm inclined to say that's all in the way the mind works. Some people have an easier time remembering numbers for example. It's how their brain works but this can be seen as a talent in a field where memorising numbers is critical.
okey... but isn't that the same with other physical things like muscle growth? some have to train much to grow muscles... while others seem to get them quicker naturally?
BeantwoordenVerwijderenlol... first you say that if it comes naturally it is talent... but for if you naturally use this trick (and very well if you can remember 1000 numbers of PI) it is not...
or am i just confused?
idk if it is something in the mind... idk the exaclt definition of talent... but i don't think it relies only on the mind... but then again... where does it come from? does the mind create the talent? or...? what are your idea's about that?
like... from the time you are born (or maybe even before) how and when do you get talent? (i'm asking for your opinion about this... I don't think there is a known fact for this.
Robert this was so awesome! Great introduction and buildup, nice. Truly a good read and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Although naturally gifted people can be very frustrating, it helps that hard work always triumphs in the end. Go dedicated people! =D
BeantwoordenVerwijderenThanks to everyone who liked the article. It's great motivation to keep writing article's like this. See if we can get some more discussion on awesome topics.
BeantwoordenVerwijderen@Qurx I personally don't feel like 'bodily functions' can be regarded as talent. So I wouldn't count fast muscle growth as a talent myself. As for the mind trick, well. Because I learned how to use that trick it didn't really feel like talent. However if someone uses this trick naturally without knowing they use the trick than I would see them as talented.
As you said it's extremely difficult to point out exactly what talent is. Actualy I'm not even sure if there is a universal thing known as talent. Everything I say here are merely my views on the topic and it's through discussion like this that I get to new insights, so thanks.
@Hanny Yeah thanks for the tip to make my articles a bit longer. And I knew you'd agree. It's through Daryll and you that I got into contact with dedication actually.